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Nicolas Winding Refn & Miles Teller on “Too Old to Die Young”
Two episodes of Nicolas Winding Refn’s Too Old to Die Young premiered on the big screen of the Grand Theatre Lumière in Cannes this year. The neo-noir thriller features Miles Teller as an LA cop and John Hawkes as a war veteran who take justice into their own hands and eliminate all they see that is bad. And they see a lot of bad in this highly stylized story shot in Los Angeles. The show will stream as a 10-episode series on Amazon but screened here as a stand-alone movie. Of sorts. It is the Danish director’s first time creating a series and he fully enjoyed the process – as did his leading actor Miles Teller. We met them at the Carlton Hotel on La Croisette in Cannes.
What was it like seeing Too Old to Die Young with the audience in the grand theatre?
Miles: It is my first time in Cannes and the first time I am seeing it. I loved it. It is always nice when you are reunited with the people you made it with. It is a celebration of the film and something that you have created. Nic watched the whole thing with his hands in front of his eyes and ears.
Nicolas: Because I was so nervous. I don’t watch my own things, but they make you sit through it at Cannes and I am always too nervous.
Miles: There is built in expectation. Right? When you are making it, you don’t have that.
Nicolas: It is a very sensitive experience. But it is always very exciting and afterward, it is just like … (exhales deeply) … especially on Friday. A six-minute standing ovation is very moving at 1 am.
Nicolas, you have a special relationship with Cannes.
Nicolas: Yes, Cannes has been wonderful to me and I have been wonderful to Cannes. And we are proud of being part of something that leads to change and that will take Cannes into more options in the future.
You have mentioned that you got the idea for this film driving through Los Angeles while working on The Neon Demon. What inspired you on this trip to get the idea?
Nicolas: The concept revealed itself and it just happened to be in the car again, which is the irony because I cannot drive. But maybe that is a good thing. I enjoy being driven. I enjoy relaxing while in movement and that is what a car can do.
Who was driving?
Nicolas: I think it was my assistant. No, actually I think I was in an Uber of all places.
Miles, you said you became involved after having read the script for episode 1. What spoke to you about episode 1?
Miles: I think when people see the first episode there is a lot in there. It set itself up for a really interesting character and world. And then working with Nic was what spoke to me most and I thought it was a character who was very thought-provoking. I wanted to crawl into that skin. That is all I knew about it was episode 1.
What was it about Miles that made you want to work with him?
Nicolas: Because he is the reincarnation of Elvis. I thought if I could make a movie starring Elvis and with the rebirth of Elvis what more American could I get?
Is he Elvis in the film for you?
Nicolas: He certainly looks like him – like an identical twin.
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You shot the film chronologically. Can you talk about the advantages of that?
Nicolas: It is more interesting creatively because the end result is just what I call dead space. And it is everything around that. That is where you are alive. And the process is really more interesting than anything else.
What do you mean by dead space?
Nicolas: It is a product. It is a thing on the wall or an online element that you can stream. It is not organic and it does not have emotion yet. So the process of creativity is more interesting than the product – it is like the Odyssey itself. So when you shoot it in order it becomes more about the journey you go through and it was the right decision.
And what is this process like for you as an actor?
Miles: We actually filmed very close to where I live, so it was nice. Shooting in chronological order is actually an advantage to the actor. You are not married to anything you have not shot – any future tense of your character. You can change course as it goes. It is an organic way to shoot.
There is a hilarious scene in the film when the police chief is having a moment of energizing the policemen and he has a religious message and then shouts ‘fascism’?
Miles: And he plays the ukulele so beautifully.
Nicolas: Martin is a man who lives in two worlds and the idea was to make the world of the night – the noir world – the focus of absurdities. It was more about making his day life that kind of projection of absurdities and that plays much more with kind of infused a reaction to the world around us where the world of the night became a kind of fantasy and a kind of escapism.
Is it also your comment on American society?
Nicolas: With art, you can always create a wonderful parallel of what is going on in the world and we are making entertainment and we are here to entertain.
But he is shouting ‘fascism’ followed by applause.
Nicolas: There are certain issues that are happening in the US at the moment where that kind of reaction certainly is becoming the norm and that is partly what this show is about. It was also a way to give all the police scenes a sense of comedic touch because we did not want to do a cop show. There are so many of those and very good ones. So it was about using the setting as a place for the absurd. It is like a sense of poetry.